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      Tuesday Links

      By admin | March 6, 2007

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      7 Responses to “Tuesday Links”

      1. Stephen Says:
        March 7th, 2007 at 8:14 am

        Just out of interest - where did you first hear about Phil Jensen? How well known is the Sydney Anglican movement on your side?

      2. jason Says:
        March 7th, 2007 at 10:38 am

        It’s long story but here’s the short version.

        I read Telling The Truth, edited by DA Carson after almost attending the conference from which the book comes. In it Tony Payne and Philip Jensen have a couple of chapters. I liked what I was reading so I started checking out the web.

        The real long story short, I ended up spending a month in Sydney with their staff to see how they go about Uni Ministry. During their mid year conference I got to spend some time with Jensen, great man.

        So Sydney Anglicanism isn’t really well known in the states. And let’s face it, I’m in baptist circles and so most want nothing to do with you baby baptizers ;) .From what I can tell the most pub they get is from the Deerfield, Sydney pipeline which encompasses Moore Theological and Trinity Sem.

        It was a great experience. Great men and women of God, I have been greatly encouraged by the friendships I developed there. In fact because of my time there I was able to hang out with a friend of a friend from Matthias this past December in ST. Louis. He was told to look me up and “encourage me.” And I was, in fact, greatly encouraged by our afternoon together.

        There’s so much more I could say about my experience but I’ll leave it at that.

      3. Stephen Says:
        March 7th, 2007 at 5:30 pm

        There’s a lot of baptists or pseudo-baptists hiding out amongst the reformed evangelical Anglicans in the UK, Sydney and here is SA. Sometimes commitment to the gospel is more important to us than something we think Scripture leaves room on.

      4. jason Says:
        March 7th, 2007 at 5:35 pm

        Touche, Stephen. My time in Sydney amongst the Sydney Anglicans definitely shows me a group of people completely sold out to the gospel and the transforming effect it can have people and culture.

        So in SA is there a lot of affinity with the Anglicans in Sydney? In general would people align themselves with Sydney there in SA?

      5. jason Says:
        March 7th, 2007 at 5:37 pm

        Oh, and let’s add a big “ouch” to the pseudo-baptist comment… :)

      6. Stephen Says:
        March 8th, 2007 at 2:00 am

        My little denomination CESA (Church of England in South Africa) is closely aligned with the Sydney Anglicans. Our college, George Whitefield College (GWC), is a sister college of Moore - Broughton Knox, former prinicpal of Moore was the first principal of GWC and close ties continue. But CESA is the smaller of two Anglican denoms in SA - the other is the Church of the Province (Desmond Tutu’s denom). The two split over a hundred years ago on issues of the authority of Scripture. The Church of the Province is still in communion with the worldwide Anglican communion - we’re not, they think we’re a bunch of rogue evangelicals (and they’ve said as much in the past). Yet out of all the traditional denoms in SA (Anglican, Methodist, Presbyterian, Baptist etc.) ours is the only one showing significant growth - curch planting and training is high on the agenda for us. You might have heard of Bishop Frank Retief (the St.James Church Massacre) - he’s our presiding Bishop and an avid church planter and visionary. Regrettable the denom is still quite ‘white’ but we’re working on it and there’s a growing number of young black pastors going through GWC.

      7. jason Says:
        March 8th, 2007 at 8:33 am

        Very cool to hear about those connections. For a time I was dreaming about a PhD from Moore. I was extremely impressed with the scholarship and the emphasis on Biblical Theology is where I’m at, versus Systematic Theological emphasis.

        Thanks for the rundown.

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