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      • « If Jesus Is Lord What Does That Make Me? | Home | Twitter Updates for 2008-11-19 »

      John Piper Says, “EP Sanders Is My Homeboy” *

      By jason | November 19, 2008

      Okay not really.  But I thought this quote from EP Sanders in New Horizons was quite interesting.

      …Sanders argued that “Paul’s thought did not run from plight [man's sin condition] to solution [savior to rescue man from sin], but rather from solution to plight.  The attempts to argue that Romans 7 shows the frustration which Paul felt during his life as a practising Jew have now mostly been given up…It may further be observed on the basis of Phil. 3 that Paul did not, while ‘under the law’, perceive himself to have a ‘plight’ from which he needed salvation.” (Sanders, Paul and Palestinian Judaism. A Comparison of Patterns of Religion, 443)

      The prior conviction, Sanders urges, is that God has provided a saviour.  His death was necessary for salvation.  From this it follows that salvation cannot come in any other way, and consequently that all were, prior to the death and resurrection, in need of a saviour.” (ibid, 9)  Sanders concludes: Paul “did not begin with the sin and transgression of man, but with the opportunity for salvation…Put another way, Paul did not preach about men, but about God.” (ibid, 446; from New Horizons, 246)

      Was Sanders the first Christian Hedonist?  :)

      *John Piper in no way said this…. ;)

      Topics: Books, Hermeneutics, Philosophy, The Scriptures, Theology |

      2 Responses to “John Piper Says, “EP Sanders Is My Homeboy” *”

      1. billy v Says:
        November 19th, 2008 at 1:06 pm

        When Piper dies, will he roll over in his grave with this comparison?

      2. jason Says:
        November 19th, 2008 at 5:27 pm

        lol.

        That was kind of the point. The two don’t really belong side by side. But: “Put another way, Paul did not preach about men, but about God,” sure sounds a lot like “God is the gospel.”

        Very different means of getting there though, huh? :)

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